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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.08.28 15:54:00 -
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as title.
Make a game that rewards a player for knowledge, fitting, expirience and precision.....
Then add chance based dice roles to HUGELY powerful things like ECM and not so life critical things like salvaging and invention.
Sorry, call me a freak, but i just dont think that is "eve"
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:22:00 -
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chance based is fine when skilled for and played against one or a few players.
the issue is when a dice roll is played by many numbers (multiple players with multiple modules) the chance of success rockets up, this is why ecm drones are even great 1v1 because you get 5 rolls every x seconds.
Im just calling for a fix where stacking takes effect on rolls as well as module stacks.
Look at all other EW, i put 2 modules lets say damps on a target and a gang friend puts to on, the target enjoys a 4 module stack meaning probably around 2-3 effective ness. now if we said we were using ecm i get 2 rolls my friend gets 2 rolls, a hit from any of us is 100% for every module, not the stacking penalized 4 down to 2-3 and also i might ass with less effect.
Salvaging and invention suffer the same thing, however running alot of jobs or using multiple modules like ECM, makes for a better success.
I just feel that this isnt very "eve".
Disagree, thats fine, this is a discussion about it after all.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.08.28 17:24:00 -
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Garviel Tarrant wrote:We are talking about contested rolls
I don't think its unreasonable for a computer to sometimes fail in the tracking of a small target or for a ECM module to struggle breaking through the defences of a ECCM module..
Why on EARTH should chance not come into it?
ecm is vs sensor strength, an eccm module only makes your chance to be jammed per ecm module less, still any single success will jam you for the 20 seconds, so if everyone in a gang were to use ecm drones AND one ecm module, your chances absoulty sky rocket, this goes simply promotes zee blob with tedious yet powerful ew on their enemy.
ever had 10 peoples ecm drones on you? It sucks.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.08.29 17:48:00 -
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Dorian Wylde wrote:EVE isn't a fighting game. Just like every MMO, you don't win just because you hit the right buttons in the right order the fastest. Chance makes things more fun, more interesting, and more balanced.
are you saying that fitting experience with pvp and a good ship dont matter at all if you click the correct order of stuff?
stupid.
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Muad 'dib
The Imperial Fedaykin
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Posted - 2012.08.29 18:20:00 -
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Alara IonStorm wrote:Muad 'dib wrote:Dorian Wylde wrote:EVE isn't a fighting game. Just like every MMO, you don't win just because you hit the right buttons in the right order the fastest. Chance makes things more fun, more interesting, and more balanced. are you saying that fitting experience with pvp and a good ship dont matter at all if you click the correct order of stuff? No he is saying literally the opposite. It is a good thing you asked to clairify that before jumping to conclusions... Oh.
please clarify i am retardentious
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Muad 'dib
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Posted - 2012.08.30 11:58:00 -
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To the guy above yes, thats exactly what im getting it!
I do lack some explaining skills but i know the game well :)
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